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witnesses were submitted? >> there were none. >> thank you. >> mr. werfel thank you. on page 14 of your report they submitted to this committee you outlined a proposal to eliminate the backlog of 501(c)4 the irs. you specifically suggest to eliminate this back like you asked for these 501(c)(4) applicants to certify under penalty of perjury to the irs that no more than 40% of their expenditures and volunteer hours will go towards political campaign activity and the remaining 60% would go to the promotion of social welfare. if that is certified by the 501(c)(4) applicants, it is your policy than that the applicant will be approved in the next two weeks. >> that is correct. >> i would write like to bring attention to a specific case and ask how that would fall under this category. specifically the 60/40 rule that you are reporting. >> is this a hypothetical case? >> this is a real-life case. >> i might have difficulty answering it very. >> lets try. on tuesday the president unveiled his plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions. within hours millions of e-mails were sent to his re-election cam
a broken agency that needs to answer to the american people. mr. werfel, in the interests of accountability and the discretion of sect lew, you spearheaded a review of the practice. the report fails to deliver the accountability the american people deserve. this report does not answer the basic questions: who started the practice, why has it been allowed to continue for so long? how i wouldspread was it? in fact this report suggests you haven't even asked anyone those questions. additionally, the report fails to address some of the most egregious offenses by the irs. i'm specifically talking about the intentional leaking of confidential taxpayer information, and ther is threatening conservative donors with additional taxes. he review notes it's important for the inspector general continue to identify the appropriate actions, but where are the checks to prevent this behavior in the first place? how will the irs learn from these inexcusable actions and provide the american taxpayer will real proof and evidence it will not happen again? it will be necessary to provide concrete reforms and ass
back. i hope, mr. chairman, you will have them come back. and i think, mr. werfel, we know that you will encourage the digging out of all of the fact as fully as possible if you proceed. do you give that pledge? >> i do give that pledge. >> there is a question that i answered that wants further clarification if that is okay. i don't remember the exact question but i want to make sure that i get out early in this hearing so that we have that basis of information to guide the questions that we're we are right now and the fact gathering and as you said it is early we have evidence of the diversity of the political labels used in the list. we have also another example where we have the diversity of the political labels. this week we are sending out letters to the taxpayers that have been in the backlog for more than 120 days to offer them this option, this fast track option. this diversity of political labels and the groups that are getting this letter. and also, it is our understanding as we review the fact that there is a diversity of political labels and those organizations that were
would be happy to answer your questions. >> thank you, mr. werfel. for the purposes of preparing reports, did you speak to the former commissioner? >> i did not. >> did you speak to the former acting commissioner steve miller? >> i did not. >> did you speak with joseph grant? >> i did not. >> did you speak with the chief counsel? >> yes. what are the summaries of those conversations? >> there were three things i set out to do which are in the report. first was to understand where the wrongdoing was so i can hold people accountable. second to understand where the management failures are so we can fix them. of a broader understanding iras risks and operations. i spoke to many people in the irs. my leadership team engaged in a series of ongoing conversations. >> did you talk to the former deputy commissioner as you prepare the report? >> i spoke to her as part of my overall understanding of the situation on the ground. they all connect. >> did you speak with lois lerner? >> i did not. >> i would say your initial conclusion of no wrongdoing given the number of key players you did not talk to
. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, mr. werfel. i want to follow-up on some of these. shee know exactly when her primary on responsibilities with the affordable care act? >> i do not have an exact answer, but i think it is the range of spring-summer 2010. >> you will wait -- you will be able to get back to us? >> we are working on that issue. >> the other day, the bonus was brought up. you said you would get back to me. do you have an answer? >> can you remind me which question? >> what kind of a bonus was paid? back to yourwent office to check on it. can you tell us today what that bonus was? >> i will ask my staff. i do not have that information at my fingertips. >> did you go back and look into it? went through all of my commitments to make sure we were getting the answers. i do not know yet. >> you have not had a discussion about bonuses? >> there will several -- there were several issues raised about bonuses. i do not want to miss speak. . will get you the information >> does your staff know today? >> we will have to go back to the irs. >> so they do not know? >> this is -- we will
commissioner so that he has the opportunity to straighten this organization out. yesterday, mr. werfel called me and we had a conversation and i normally don't share conversations but the conversation was important because it it was kind of a first step that i think is about the transparency of -- you tell what you're doing, most of it will never be spoken, it doesn't need to be spoken public. we need to know and the various committees in the senate also, that the work is going the right way. the culture that had gone wrong has been changed. a culture that would see organizations abused for years without a whistleblower coming forward or would see some of these conferences and not be as outraged as we were is a culture that needs to change. for those who were outraged and those who are outraged today, i want everyone to understand for the vast majority of federal workers, this is not the norm. for the rest of the federal work force, if it's the norm it's time to blow the whistle and the america e, deserves value for their hard-earned money. > thank you, mr. chairman. i think we must pause and
this come from? we will not rest, mr. werfel, until somebody gets us those answers. that is terribly important to the constitution of the united states of america. now, on to funding. in the past, the committee has that's when we had an agency that was not doing something that they were supposed to do, this committee would put conditions on the financing of that agency. in installments so that your money would not come until you do what you're supposed to do. that is a straitjacket. i don't like to do that, but we have done with the coast guard, gao and others. there very well may be that the subcommittee may recommend it to the full committee and we may take it to the floor. the proposition that your funding will be conditional on your response to the questions that we are asking you. we will not rest until this is done, and i don't need to remind you or anyone else of the power of the purse rests in the congress. we are prepared to use that purse to get to the truth. >> thank you. >> i have been listening to this testimony today and thinking a lot about 501(c)4 organizations. i agr
. thank you. >>. >> following up on my last questions, mr. werfel. have you asked any employees in cincinnati if say they were ordered to carry out the approaches. >> not at this time. >> who interviewed you? >> who interviewed . >> you for the position? >> i was first approached on -- asked about whether i would be interested in going over and helping the irs by the white house chief of staff. he's the first person that approached me. >> did you ask the white house chief of staff who in fact ordered special target here? >> i didn't. i wanted to make sure what i understood what the mission was and what they were asking me to do. >> you were willing to take the post not knowing where it might go, what it involved, who was responsible for the scan call. you have yet to go to cincinnati and ask the employees who ordered it? >> i've been a civil servant in government for sixteen years. i have deep respect for the civil servant across the federal government including those at the irs. the ifers is an agency in need right now. i have a reputation for stepping in and helping solve ob g
the audit phase of this. >> mr. werfel are you satisfied with that response from individuals in cincinnati? >> no. >> will you get to the bottom of that? >> we have to get to the bottom of that. >> no matter how high it went up the change, you will find out who made this order? >> we will uncover every fact. martha: that is the job set before him here. stuart varney, fox business network joins me right now. j. russell george, the inspector general who looked all this and has been he have iting, we asked these so-called rogue folks at the irs in cincinnati, who instructed you, where did this directive come from to sift through the applications for conservative names and monikers in here. he said he couldn't get them to answer that question. >> there is really a lot of frustration here. it is growing. it is intense frustration. because there is a suspicion and clear evidence that the machinery of government was used to intimidate the president's political opponents in two election cycles. yet we do not know who may or may not have the orchestrated this. who orchestrated, who demanded and who
outside of the irs five. >> to a number of republicans ask why mr. werfel was in a rush to jump to the conclusion. >> it is a sham. it is to sid and of stare daschle to read the whitewash description. >> and also being ripped for excessive production. >> to the extent there is a notion and a concern that there is over redaction. this is john. this has no meaning. colleagues said ed letter to tte chairman to have him come back under oath and one to know why he did not mention the liberal references on the be on the lookout list for now. lori: following obama is planned to fight climate change the next guest is sponsoring a new bill expanding offshore energy production seeking to remove government barriers that block production of our u.s. energy resources. obama effectively oppose the offshore drilling moratorium and the plan that keeps 85 percent of the up offshore with its offshore and to expand drilling off the coast of california mccready more than 1 million new american jobs to lower energy prices and growing our economy. joining us is doc hastings also a member of the overs
, mr. chairman. thank you mr. werfel for being here. i have heard great thing about your reputation, and i hope that you will get to the bottom of this. i want to raise some specific questions of this report a path forward at the irs is a public report. in this town, as you know, you have been here awhile, and i've spend some time in the town. a republican report, whether it's intended to be or not is a political report. people are going to seize upon what is in that report, and there are going to statement like the one that you made, we have not found evidence of intentional wrong doing on behalf of our irs personnel. they are going to seize all statements like that. and they are going to hold it up and say, yeah, see that? no evidence. i was a staff investigator in the house. i have been a prosecutor. did you not know that by putting that in the statement you were communicating to the world, even though this is a -- this is a simply an update, you were communicating to the world from a political perspective that there is no evidence of wrong doing. i understand factually what you
.r.s. personnel. no evidence of intentional wrongdoing. mr. werfel, this report is a sham. this is junk. this has no meaning. >> it might be junk, but it might be sensitive taxpayer information. >> it's not. we know it's not. you're hiding behind it. i'm telling you, i'm putting you on notice, this committee intends to uphold the 1998 act and follow through on it to make sure the i.r.s. is forth coming and not creating a bunch of nonsense hiding behind bureaucratic double-talk. >>steve: mr. werfel was there because it was 30 days later and they were supposed to report back, give us the names of the people who did the targeting and whose idea it was. he didn't have any names. what's interesting though is the real headline is from a couple of days ago, a bunch of democrats said look at this, according to the treasury department apparently they targeted progressive groups. and jay russell george, the i.r.s. i.g., said that they did put 6 progressive groups on a list versus the 292 tea party groups. 100% of them were targeted for extra scrutiny. and those six progressive groups were simply put on a l
million annually to fulfill your duties, we expected to spend it wisely and effectively. mr. werfel, i know you have already publicly stated that these conferences were inappropriate uses of taxpayer dollars and that you intend to root out any other inappropriate behavior at the irs. i hope that this committee works with you to review how we can prevent spending like this from ever happening again. may want to, we consider putting conditions on your funding that allows us to monitor your agency's compliance with proper practices. this committee has done that before and we very well may be in that mode again. my committee already has and will continue to enact tough measures and oversight at other agencies, as we did with the a oh, to root out this kind of excess and abuse. if it takes legislation to stop these latest misguided endeavors, so be it. that is what we will do. allegedly an independent agency should operate in a non-political fair american.ry that rule has been violated. we look forward to your testimony and your answers to members' questions to help this subcommittee provid
from side to side. so, let me start out -- let me ask you, mr. werfel, it's good to hear your perspective because you're the new guy. i think if you add them up, you've been here 12 days, probably counting weekends and probably been working on the weekends, and another 18 days you're expected to give kind of a -- your first look at a 30-day review of what has again on here, and we have all looked at the facts and we recognize that what has happened here is really shaken the trust of the american people in the irs, and its ability to be fair and impartial. as i said earlier you have to have a fair and impartial agency that is going to collect taxes when you base the collections on volunteerism. people voluntarily pay their taxes but they need to be able to trust the agency that is collecting those taxes. and one of the problems i have found is that this went on for some time, and yet no one spoke up. now, there's some question, is this some rogue agents in cincinnati? it's hard to believe that somebody just stood up one day and said, here's a way we can really embarrass people
, mr. werfel, no more collective bargaining agreements. if you don't like it and take to us court and try to convince 12 people you deserved it. >> should irs employees get the bonuses or president obama figure out how to stop this one? go to greta wire and vote in our poll. >>> straight ahead, the tea party protesting the irs. senator mike leigh at te here, . >>> if you have a small business, work for one or know someone who does, special news tonight about obama care. chris collins here to talk about that. and breaking news, "sopranos" star james hey. they're coming. yeah. british. later. sorry. ok...four words... scarecrow in the wind... a baboon... monkey? hot stew saturday!? ronny: hey jimmy, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? jimmy: happier than paul revere with a cell phone. ronny: why not? anncr: get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. even in stupid loud places. to prove it, we set up our call center right here... [ chirp ] all good? [ chirp ] getty up. seriously, this is really happening! [ cellphone
and details on upcoming visits by mr. werfel to capitol hill. harris? >> that sounded like code for "go back to the drug board, mr -- drawing board, mr. we." mike, thank you. in texas, lawmakers have been vehemently debating over abortion rights. in fact, tonight republicans are answering back. governor rick perry ordering a special legislature. opponents claim it would shut down most of the state's abortion clinics. supporters say it will improve women's healthcare. here was the scene tuesday night when the proposal failed in the final moments of the special legislative session after delays from illinoisy protesters in that 13-hour long filibuster by one democrat state senator. governor perry today called those delays, quote, nothing more than the hijacking of the democratic process. he ordered that new special session to begin on monday. it will give the republican-controlled legislature an extra 30 days to pass the new limits on abortion. casey segal working on the story from group vine, texas. casey, governor perry made bold statements today. >> he sure did, and did it as he kicked off t
, mr. chairman. >> thank you. i would like now to recognize mr. daniel werfel. he could limit your statement of five minutes or less would give us more time for questions and will be happy to submit your written statement for the record. >> thank you. chairman, ranking member, members of the subcommittee. thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss the work we're doing to try to up -- to chart a path for for the irs. this is obviously a difficult time for the agency, and the public is rightly concerned and upset, as i might, about the inappropriate and nine -- and unacceptable actions highlighted in the recent inspector general's report regarding the 501(c)4 application process. working together i am confident that we can address the problems that exist and move forward with of better and more effective irs with that in mind, and my first few days i have initiated a comprehensive review of the agency and to take immediate actions to begin to address this significant and alarming problems identified in the report. in taking these steps i am guided by several
second , the, mr. danny werfel acting commissioner of the irs and has been on the job almost two weeks. with that, pursuant to the committee rules, we would ask you raise his right hand. the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth truth, and nothing but the truth? klees have a seat. -- please have a seat. the witness answered in the affirmative. the procedure we use today is not the ordinary procedure. we would normally put members of the administration first but i think it was agreed that this receipt or made a lot of sense. and with that, you're recognized for your opening statement. >> thank you. chairman issa, and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today discuss the work we have already done and will continue to do to reduce travel and training expenses and to ensure proper financial controls are in place over meetings and conference approval processes. the 22 and manager meeting held by the small business division in anaheim, described in the inspector general's report, it is an unfortunate vestige from a prior er
rodgers liked that a lot. >> mr. werfel, i'm beginning to like you when you say you don't want more money. that's music to my ears. i'm sure the cramer feels the same. >> of course, larry, there are more irs hearings ahead in both the house and the snoochlt we have to see whether darryl issa and the others investigating this are going to be able to pin it to the white house or to officials in washington higher-ups in washington. he did get some aggressive pushback over the weekend from the former white house senior adviser who brought up some criminal charges in darryl issa's own past, which is an indication that the white house is saying you want to have a full volume fight over integrity and honesty? be careful what you wish for. >> well, okay. thank you, john harwood from washington, d.c., we appreciate it. now, we will bring back ileana johnson and ed conner from aei. ed, i read your foreign affairs piece about america's growth and so forth. one of your biggest beeves is we spend too much money and we should cut spending. is there a better example than this? i mean, is that possible?
at the agency for a matter of days, mr. werfel pledged things are going to change. >> this is obviously a difficult time for the agency, and the public is rightly concerned and upset, as am i. the agency stands ready to confront the problems that occurred, hold accountable those who acted inappropriately, be open about what happened and permanently fix these problems so such missteps do not occur again. >> earlier in the day werfel announced leadership moves inside the irs. part of the internal review he's doing for the president, due within 30 days. but, of course, none of that will due for house oversight committee chairman, one darrell issa, driving straight for the white house. >> the administration has still, their paid liar, their spokesperson, picture behind, he's still making things up about what happens in calling this local rogue. this is a problem that was coordinated in all likelihood right out of washington headquarters. >> faced with such inflammatory rhetoric, being called a paid liar by a member of congress, white house spokesman jay carney had a maddeningly measured res
personnel. no evidence of intentional wrongdoing. mr. werfel, this report is a sham. >> the notion that no witnesses are being interviewed is not accurate. the accurate answer is that witnesses are being interviewed whether i am personally sitting across the table or not from interviewing. i would love to be able to but the reality is i am going to follow the process and the rule of law to get to the bottom of it. and one of the constraints i have is i have to let professional investigators do the interviewing and that's a constraint i'm willing to live with. >> holman: the i.r.s. practices were roundly condemned by both political parties. at least five i.r.s. officials have been removed from their jobs. federal regulators filed a civil lawsuit against former new jersey governor john corzine for failing to properly manage m.f. global. the financial firm collapsed in 2011, when more than a billion dollars in customer funds disappeared. the lawsuit seeks to ban corzine from trading in the futures market and demands he pay unspecified penalties. corzine has disputed the allegations ag
agency that needs to answer to the american people. mr. werfel, in the interest of accountability and discretion of secretary lew you spear-headed a thirty-day review. unfortunately, while i'm aware it's an initial report, it fails to deliver the accountability that the american people deserve. this report doesn't answer even the most basic significant questions who started this practices? why is it allowed to continue for so long? how widespread was it? in fact the report suggests that you haven't even asked anyone those questions. additionally, the report fails to address so. most e egregious offenses by the irs. i'm talking about the leaking of considerable taxpayer information. and the irs threatening conservative donor with additional taxes. the review notes it's important that the inspector general continue to identify inappropriate actions, but where is the internal oversight? where are the checks to prevent this behavior in the first place? how will the irs learn from the inexcusable action and provide the american taxpayer with real proof and evidence that it will not ha
could you do to force force mr. werfel to give you answers and for the irs to get in line. >> he's going to understand today we could not in good conscience keep appropriating money for an agency that abuses rights. we're not going to spend more money until we get answers. they need the money to do the job. we need the irs but we're not going to keep giving them carte blanche. we find out all this waste and abuse that's been going on. the money they're wasting unconscious and videos was unused money from the enforcement budget at the same time they're asking for money for enforcement. how outrageous is that. >> megyn: they spent tens of thousands of dollars on storm tracker trek videos and other videos relative of a about by gone era. let's hope that's true. thank you. we'll watch you at the hearing less than an hour from now. >>> tomorrow the house ways and means committee will hold a hearing with several groups targeted by the irs trying to get a picture. we know this isn't just tea party groups. it's not just folks who believe in limited government. it goes beyond that based on what w
. this is the second leg. think you will be hearing a lot more about it this week. as you said earlier, martha, mr. werfel testifies today. i think he would be pressed for more details on that $4 million conference. martha: feels like the whole, you see sales conferences in private corporations for-profit organizations where they're trying to drum up the sales force. if they want to do that, if they feel that is good way to raise their bottom line, that is their prerogative. if the shareholders don't like it they can do whatever they want about it. this is, to state the obvious is public entity. it is not out there to raise profits but seem to be living on the high life as some other companies set the precedent for in the past. >> this has been done at a time when america has a trillion dollar a year deficits. i think a lot of people are reminded of the general accounting office scandals with you there was lavish conferences in las vegas. we all remember bathtub jeff. i think the same level of outrage about this irs conferences and back in las vegas with that gentleman before. martha: who works fo
to shift. how will this hearing advance it, do you think? >> hopefully we talk to mr. werfel, he is knew into this position and also speaking with the inspector general, there are a lot of other documents. we've had people on the ground from our committee going into ohio. this is going to take some time to unweave this whole mess but we will get there, bill. we will get there. bill: we'll see you in about 15 minutes the hearing begins there on capitol hill. jason chaffetz, republican from utah. thank you. martha: we'll get to that live in just a few minutes. stick around for that. >>> hope for a dying girl in need of a lung transplant. what a judge did that health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius would not. . at angie's list, you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare written by people just like you. if you want to save yourself time and avoid a hassle, go to angie's list. at angie's list, you'll find the right person to do the job you need. and you'll find the right person quickly and easily. i'm busy, busy, busy, busy. thank goodness for angie's list
at the irs, i'd take a look at it. >> peter: mr. werfel says, we haven't finished our investigation, but there doesn't appear to be anything wrong. >> steve: don't you think we would have heard from some groups on thes left had they been targeted before? >> dana: there is targeting and then there is harassment. even if they were on the be on the look outlist, what sort of harassment did they have? i don't understand why they couldn't have done an independent investigation because the irs -- i think danny werfel is a good -- he's trying to do his best job, but i don't think people will truly trust the irs to investigate itself. i just don't. >> peter: we need that. >> steve: we do. meanwhile, let's talk about this, a lot of people don't trust the nsa now that we found that the super spy agency is spying on all of us. the leaker, edward snowden, appears to be stuck in russia, behind the scenes the united states is threatening russia. state department has contacted ecuador and iceland. what's interesting is now we're starting to learn details about what he was doing in hong kong. a fel
the orders? where did this come from? we will not re mr. werfel, until you -- somebody gets us those answers. >>brian: great opportunity for him. he would go in there and clean house if he approached it honestly and fairly. he said i don't want any more money. he said i have my budget. i don't need any more budget. a democratic congressman weighed in. he goes wait a second. don't say you don't need any more money. he says no, i have to find out what we're spending it on first. he said we're looking to clean house and call the actions of the i.r.s. prior to his arrival inexcusable. i think that's a steady start. why are they asking a bunch of questions he's not responsible for? >>steve: he said the conferences where they spent all that money on, the star trek thing and gilligan's island. he said -- danny werfel -- that is an unfortunate investigate continual from a priorer rafplt -- prior era. prior era? it was last year. this is the same administration where benghazi was a long time ago. at the "washington times" they have a fellow named joseph curl, one of the editors on drudge. he was twee
's correct. during the audit phase of this. >> mr.er with werful fell, are you satisfied with that. >> we will i couldn't know cover every fact. >> members seemed to welcome the get to the bottom attitude. werfel has only been on the job less than two weeks, shep. >> two questions about irs officials still getting paychecks. >> well, that's right. you remember the woman who came up here to capitol hill, started to defend herself and then refused to answer questions. well, lois lerner is still on the taxpayer payroll. she is still collecting a paycheck. she has refused to resign and that irritates many lawmakers and one key lawmaker essentially warned the new acting irs commissioner if people are not held accountable, congress could in effect put the irs in a straight jacket. >> mr. chairman, we may want to consider putting conditions on your funding that allow us to monitor your agency's compliance with proper practices. this committee has done that before. and we very well may be in that mode again. >> there is also the issue of $92 million in bonuses given to irs employees since 2000 it
: we are awaiting testimony from the irs, danny werfel and his investigation into the agency's targeting scandal after another senior irs official took the fifth during a hearing just yesterday. >> mr. roseman, are you currently employed by the irs? >> mr. chairman on the advice of counsel i respectfully refuse to answer any questions and invoke my fifth amendment privilege to remain silent. >> are you prepared to answer any questions here today about your role in the irs informations and technologies products and services from strong cattle inc? >> mr. chairman, no. bill: darrell issa, welcome back to america' newsroom. what did you think yesterday? i think you thought were going to get the fifth. did you? >> we did suspect that. our report came out that morning that included some revealing information in things mr. rose man was involved. but in the weeks and months leading up to this we couldn't get the irs to see there was a there there. only during our investigation did the senior deputy in charge tucker admit now there was something that concerned her. that's one of the
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